Zizwe Zika Ntu, kaTogu, kaPhalo!

[nomnganga]

Nto zobawo nani ntokazi zakowethu.... mawaba akokwethu... nto zika Togu, ka Phalo, Ka Hintsa, kaMalangana....nto zika Mdange, kaTshiwo, zika Rharhabe noGcaleka....kwekhu.. ndiziva ndizele uchulumanco ndakubona into enje ngale.... lomntu uze nelicebo inga intloko yam uyiqaba nge oli...

Ndilityendyana apha elizingcayo nelizidlayo ngalonto ndiyiyo...ndikweli lendunduma... apha kwamntan'am wendelephi.. apha kwandokwenza...phantsi kwezibane ezikhanya imini nobusuku..elizweni leGolide...ndithi nantsi into nentokazi zakuthi ziyazifihla ukuba ziphuma kulamhlaba unengca....kaloku mfondini azimhambeli lula okhe wafumaniseka ukuba nguMxhosa....kaloku mfondini banukunezwa ezindlebeni.. babe bengabhalelwa ncwadi.... ndibe kemna ke ndingacengi ndolalaphi...ak'kho ngak'lonobani apha... kusentla kwamasimi....

Kanivele mawaba sikhe sihambise levangeli

[Makhosimvelo]

Camagu, Nomnganga
ndiyabulela phezulu
(I am grateful big time)
I am most grateful for your enthusiasm. Although I could not understand your entire insert above, I have whisked it off for translation. It would be awesome for the Xhosa learners, if you were to provide an English translation with your insert to help people learn, and for more people to hear your message.

Regarding stuff on the idioms of the AmaXhosa, I left a really cool sheet of idioms and proverbs related to plants and trees up in the Kei, but Patricia Schonstein Pinnock's book "Xhosa. A cultural Grammar" has a whole bunch of really great ones. I will try right up a few and put them in the culture forum. What's the xhosa words for them again. Amaqhalo nezi...ndilibele...I forget

[Makhosimvelo]

Hi, I found these on the African Voices website.
XHOSA PROVERBS

(These are taken from) a book we recently bought called Xhosa Proverbs by Zolile Calana, published by Kwela Books.

Usana olungakhaliyo lufel' embelekweni.
A baby that does not cry out, dies on its mother's back.
(If you don't complain, nothing will happen and the problem will persist).


Akukho nkwali iphandel' enye.
No partridge scratches the ground in search of food for another.
(Do not expect others to do for you what you should do for yourself.)

Inkqayi ingena ngenlontlo.
The baldness of a head begins at the temples.
(A big thing may result from a seemingly small matter. This is said in defence of small beginnings. Equivalent to "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.")

[Makhosimvelo]

Nto zobawo nani ntokazi zakowethu.... mawaba akokwethu... nto zika Togu, ka Phalo, Ka Hintsa, kaMalangana....nto zika Mdange, kaTshiwo, zika Rharhabe noGcaleka....kwekhu.. ndiziva ndizele uchulumanco ndakubona into enje ngale.... lomntu uze nelicebo inga intloko yam uyiqaba nge oli...

Ndilityendyana apha elizingcayo nelizidlayo ngalonto ndiyiyo...ndikweli lendunduma... apha kwamntan'am wendelephi.. apha kwandokwenza...phantsi kwezibane ezikhanya imini nobusuku..elizweni leGolide...ndithi nantsi into nentokazi zakuthi ziyazifihla ukuba ziphuma kulamhlaba unengca....kaloku mfondini azimhambeli lula okhe wafumaniseka ukuba nguMxhosa....kaloku mfondini banukunezwa ezindlebeni.. babe bengabhalelwa ncwadi.... ndibe kemna ke ndingacengi ndolalaphi...ak'kho ngak'lonobani apha... kusentla kwamasimi....

Kanivele mawaba sikhe sihambise levangeli

I asked a venerable friend to attempt a translation of Momnganga's piece above, and this was what he sent me.

"men of our lords, and you, women of our home... our ancestors... men of Togu, of Phalo, of Hintsa, of Malangana... men of Mdange, of Tshiwo, of Rharhabe, and Gcaleka, wow! I feel joy on seeing a sight like this... the person who brought forth this idea has annointed my head with oil.

I am a child who is proud of what he is... I am as the thunder... under the lights that burn day and night... in the land of gold... I say "here" to the man and woman who deny that they come from this earth, which springs grass... things do not go well for them when they say they are Xhosa...

WHOA!! This is hard, dude!!!

so sorry i can't finnish it cos i got a meeting, and i wont be near a computer for a while.
try asking a hard-core mbongi (poet) or a lecturer or teacher.

...So there you have it, folks....

[Mazambanenenyama]

Is this forum still active? I have posted a number of things but no replies. Am looking for Xhosa proverbs or idioms that have to do with the following;

Firewood also cooking and carrying
Women and their work
Women and men in the home

By the way, what are the Xhosa words for idioms, proverbs and sayings?

I hope to get lots of replies!

[Phaziyamila]

Originally Posted by Mazambanenenyama

Is this forum still active? I have posted a number of things but no replies. Am looking for Xhosa proverbs or idioms that have to do with the following;

Firewood also cooking and carrying
Women and their work
Women and men in the home

By the way, what are the Xhosa words for idioms, proverbs and sayings?

I hope to get lots of replies!

Mandigawule ndiwarhuqa, amade ngawetyala. Ibingumlil'wendiza. ndithez'olunenkume.

[nomnganga]

Originally Posted by Phaziyamila

Mandigawule ndiwarhuqa, amade ngawetyala. Ibingumlil'wendiza. ndithez'olunenkume.

Lento xa iphelele ithi, Mandigawule ndiwarhuqa kuba ihlathi asil'olam. Ndizakugawula ndiwarhuqa a'yokomel'ekhaya.

Uthi ke uba uyathanda.. uzothezela emnxebeni...

[nomnganga]

Originally Posted by Phaziyamila

Mandigawule ndiwarhuqa, amade ngawetyala. Ibingumlil'wendiza. ndithez'olunenkume.

Lento xa iphelele ithi, Mandigawule ndiwarhuqa kuba ihlathi asil'olam. Ndizakugawula ndiwarhuqa a'yokomel'ekhaya.

Uthi ke uba uyathanda.. uzothezela emnxebeni...

Zizwe zika Ntu, zika Togu, kaPhalo, zika Mdange, kaTshiwo, ka Hintsa, kaMalangane, zika Rharhabe zika Gcaleka.